I’ll never forget my sophomore year of college, wandering the cobblestone streets of Sevilla, Spain, earbuds in… listening to something brand new to me at the time:
Podcasts.
One show in particular stood out: Entrepreneurs on Fire.
Hearing real entrepreneurs talk about building businesses that made an impact felt revolutionary compared to the dry, theoretical lectures I was getting in class. It was like discovering a portal into the life I knew I wanted.
Fast forward almost a decade…
Selena Soo (episode #242) invites me into one of her curated “Rich Relationships” mixers, and I find myself in a breakout room with Kate Dumas — the heartbeat of EO Fire.
If you don’t know, EO Fire is one of the most downloaded business podcasts (175M+ downloads), hosted by John Lee Dumas.
But what many people don’t see is that behind the scenes, Kate has been co-building the entire empire with John… while also navigating a romantic relationship, cross-country moves, and now raising a kid together.
To date, EO Fire has generated $28M+ in revenue while impacting millions — and their relationship all started with Kate meeting a sweaty John while in his boxers in the middle of an Insanity workout (hilarious story you’ll hear on the show.)
In this episode, we go deep on:
🔥 What it’s really like to build a multimillion-dollar business with your life partner with two OPPOSITE skillsets
🔥 How Kate went from feeling invisible to launching her own show and stepping into her power
🔥 Why they intentionally scaled back from 8 employees to 3 — and what it taught them about freedom
Whether you’re in business with your partner, thinking about it, or just curious how 175M downloads happen behind the scenes…
This episode will give you a rare look into what makes it all work.
Find Out More About Kate Dumas
- EOFire.com – Home base for the podcast, blog, courses, and income reports
- EOFire.com/income – Transparent monthly income reports
- Kate’s Take Podcast – Kate’s personal podcast on business insights
- The Common Path to Uncommon Success – Book by John Lee Dumas, with contributions from Kate
- HubSpot Podcast Network – Business podcast network featuring EO Fire
- Mastery in Transformational Training (MITT) – Training program Kate attended for personal growth
- Episode #242 with Selena Soo – Connector who introduced Brandon and Kate




